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Post by NotFlux on Dec 16, 2014 14:20:54 GMT -8
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Post by adamz2 on Dec 17, 2014 2:58:25 GMT -8
Looks great, good job.
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Post by Awful on Dec 20, 2014 15:25:19 GMT -8
How the fuck did you get it to format like that?
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Post by Radwan on Dec 20, 2014 16:28:53 GMT -8
Damn good job man! Didn't expect it to be THAT good. I'd suggest you add teddies to around level 30-40ish especially for assassins, since the platforms there are perfect for spamming triple throw.
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Post by NotFlux on Dec 21, 2014 15:18:11 GMT -8
How the fuck did you get it to format like that? Wot Damn good job man! Didn't expect it to be THAT good. I'd suggest you add teddies to around level 30-40ish especially for assassins, since the platforms there are perfect for spamming triple throw. Added Teddies, although their hp/exp ratio is not really good , it is true that they are easy to snipe |
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Post by NotFlux on Jan 3, 2015 3:12:42 GMT -8
Added New grinding places for F/P mages
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Post by Often on Jan 3, 2015 13:51:36 GMT -8
yo i can't hate on this format. it's so sexy and clean im rating so hard rn
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Post by Reed on Jan 3, 2015 18:02:10 GMT -8
My feedback is mostly geared towards warriors since that is I have the most experience with. I went with a dexless build so I would have never been able to go to FoG at 43 as this guide states. A good alternative that I found was Roids in Alcadno Research Institute: Lab - Area C-1 from around 45-55, they have a decent spawn and it is small flat map perfect for mob skills. Another good map is Evil Eyes from 35-45, Dungeon: Cave of Evil Eye II.
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Post by NotFlux on Jan 4, 2015 0:25:52 GMT -8
My feedback is mostly geared towards warriors since that is I have the most experience with. I went with a dexless build so I would have never been able to go to FoG at 43 as this guide states. A good alternative that I found was Roids in Alcadno Research Institute: Lab - Area C-1 from around 45-55, they have a decent spawn and it is small flat map perfect for mob skills. Another good map is Evil Eyes from 35-45, Dungeon: Cave of Evil Eye II. Added Iron Mutaes and roids to the warriors guide. Left roids at 43 - 55 since you can get a maple weapon at that level. Although i know evil eyes have a big spawn, they exp/hp ratio is bad, so i won`t add them here |
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Post by Often on Jan 4, 2015 3:08:45 GMT -8
Clerics: I would add Pac Pinkys as a training spot form 43-48 (45 in your case) before you move on to Slimys. Regardless if the Cleric is lukless or not, their "Magic accuracy" will remain the same. Seeing as you start off with both 4 INT and 4 LUK with an additional 9 ability points when you begin your character; You will have a combined 227 ability points on INT and LUK at level 43 [(4+4+9 = 17) + (42*5 = 210) = 227]. According the "Magic accuracy"- calculator I use: You'll have a hit ratio of 75% on Pac Pinkys at level 43 (Monster level: 58, Monster avoidability 18). At level 48 your hit ratio on Slimys will be 76% which is a decent percentage to move on to Slimys. This calculation disregards all your additional INT and LUK equips, so use the calculator accordingly. Source: Link to download (open) the Magic Accuracy calculator CLICK HERE
Source: Accuracy calculator for non-mage jobs, which also shows monsters level and avoidability CLICK HERE
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Post by NotFlux on Jan 4, 2015 6:11:44 GMT -8
Clerics: I would add Pac Pinkys as a training spot form 43-48 (45 in your case) before you move on to Slimys. Regardless if the Cleric is lukless or not, their "Magic accuracy" will remain the same. Seeing as you start off with both 4 INT and 4 LUK with an additional 9 ability points when you begin your character; You will have a combined 227 ability points on INT and LUK at level 43 [(4+4+9 = 17) + (42*5 = 210) = 227]. According the "Magic accuracy"- calculator I use: You'll have a hit ratio of 75% on Pac Pinkys at level 43 (Monster level: 58, Monster avoidability 18). At level 48 your hit ratio on Slimys will be 76% which is a decent percentage to move on to Slimys. This calculation disregards all your additional INT and LUK equips, so use the calculator accordingly. Source: Link to download (open) the Magic Accuracy calculator CLICK HERE
Source: Accuracy calculator for non-mage jobs, which also shows monsters level and avoidability CLICK HERE Replaced master chronos for Pac Pinkys, thanks for the recommendation and providing the hit rate. |
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Post by DiximaN on Jan 9, 2015 13:12:23 GMT -8
My feedback is mostly geared towards warriors since that is I have the most experience with. I went with a dexless build so I would have never been able to go to FoG at 43 as this guide states. A good alternative that I found was Roids in Alcadno Research Institute: Lab - Area C-1 from around 45-55, they have a decent spawn and it is small flat map perfect for mob skills. Another good map is Evil Eyes from 35-45, Dungeon: Cave of Evil Eye II. I'd prefer evil eyes at lv 25-35 as a warrior... But on the other hand, I was lv25 a VERY VERY long time ago, before all of the wz edits came, and before most of the current active guys here even knew bout Noble. ^_^ |
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Post by Reed on Jan 11, 2015 17:52:04 GMT -8
Another update as I level my new page. I found Desert Giants/Sand Dwarfs in Sunset Road: The Ruins of Desert Nomads to be a better spot from 35-43 than Iron Mutaes. It has a really nice spawn and a flat map. I'm not sure if I still have the statistics I collected but they definitely gave more exp per 10 minute increment.
Also for the Roid vs FoG argument, at level 44 I was able to get 32.32% per 10 minutes at Roids and 34% at FoG. Relatively the same exp but FoG costs a lot more to train at.
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Post by NotFlux on Jan 11, 2015 20:25:46 GMT -8
You`re right about Desert gigants, they seem like a really good flat map and the exp/hp ratio is similar to iron mutaes.
Regarding Roids vs FoG, FoG being placed first doesn`t mean it`s better. I don`t really like FoG to be honest, i put it there because that was the common training place before Roids came out . Also, it can be a good place with a party, so im leaving it there. Going to change the order anyways so people consider Roids as their first option.
Thanks for the testing and the feed-back, since i trained my warriors before Magatia came out, so i havent tested thos maps myself.
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Post by DiximaN on Jan 11, 2015 23:21:35 GMT -8
You`re right about Desert gigants, they seem like a really good flat map and the exp/hp ratio is similar to iron mutaes. Regarding Roids vs FoG, FoG being placed first doesn`t mean it`s better. I don`t really like FoG to be honest, i put it there because that was the common training place before Roids came out . Also, it can be a good place with a party, so im leaving it there. Going to change the order anyways so people consider Roids as their first option. Thanks for the testing and the feed-back, since i trained my warriors before Magatia came out, so i havent tested thos maps myself. FOG is also a good place to farm some mesos . |
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Post by ravenhaker on Feb 16, 2015 19:57:47 GMT -8
Genins at Ninja Castle give pretty legit exp. They are 600 hp for 150 exp. Mobs spawn pretty regularly the only down side is that they have a ranged slash attack that could be pretty problematic for mages. Great training for my sin. I was there from lvl ~25 to 35. And they drop simulators pretty regularly which can be sold for 20k each to a shop which I've never had less than 50 of between recharges.
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Post by ddranimestyle on Apr 11, 2015 8:33:42 GMT -8
Piano room is pretty bad. It only has one Nightmare in the entire room that respawns in the same place lol
It's braindead easy, but kinda slow, to level there, I guess.
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Post by NotFlux on Apr 13, 2015 15:31:13 GMT -8
Uhh, Im not sure, I trained my sin ages ago, but i remember there was more than one nightmare, perhaps it was on vanity room. Nightmares have an amazing exp/hp ratio though, so they are still pretty good. If you have another place you would like to suggest, please do so. I would either go to STDs or Truckers in those lvls if nightmares aren't good as you suggest. Regarding raven's post, that i saw months ago, but never really replied back to him, Genin are indeed amazing and have one of the best exp/hp ratios. I would definitely suggest them for 25-35, or even 21+ for funded ppl.(tested them a while back on a sin). PD: the guide reached over 1k views.  |
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